tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post5169974614493407195..comments2024-03-21T17:19:59.966+08:00Comments on Sharmalan Thevar: Bujang Valley & Malaysian IndiansSharmalan Thevarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15905439167704608705noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-74134837295112090492013-12-24T22:15:25.356+08:002013-12-24T22:15:25.356+08:00NagaratharNagaratharAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-76573822534977565352013-12-24T17:02:06.192+08:002013-12-24T17:02:06.192+08:00Vanakam Subramax,
"Agreed most Indians don&#...Vanakam Subramax,<br /><br />"Agreed most Indians don't know their roots; same goes for Malaysians of all races. Many don't know their great grandparent's names. I am blessed to come from a community that has a 1,000 year old office in Pillayarpatti in Tamilnadu. My family tree on record stretches back to 1,000 years - about 20,000 population today. Every time someone from our families gets married anywhere around the world we inform the office and they include the male name on the 'tree'."<br /><br />I have heard about this before but I don't know which community it is. Mind telling me?Sharmalan Thevarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15905439167704608705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-53435599671949705472013-12-22T07:36:53.285+08:002013-12-22T07:36:53.285+08:00Hmmm...Here is the thing, the kingdom in bujang va...Hmmm...Here is the thing, the kingdom in bujang valley never dissappear to begin with, it simply become Sultanate of Kedah after the ruler convert to islam and the capital shift from one district to another.in 13-14 centuries the port city of Sungai Batu(Bujang Valley) is still being use as a main port but soon abandon completely in later years after the emerging Sultanate of Malacca in the south.The reason it was abandon? simple, its gradually lost its prestige compare to other port.The indian and arab prefer to go to shining germ Malacca port compare to the old rusty port of Kedah Sultanate in Bujang Valley.Dont forget the downfall of Bujang valley is also because of the raid of Chola army in 11 centuries where a lot of kedahan Malay were brutally murder and their treasures were taken, not to mention chola army also tear down Bujang Valley and make it a barren land.That is the reason why the Kingdom "Dissappear" but in actuality the kingdom never dissappear its continue on until this day.Kedah,Kataha,Kadahram,and kalah, is the same name but different pronunciation depending on the race/people that came here.A.Danial Zainuddinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00180760241819586013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-5926097813311507962013-12-21T14:17:46.712+08:002013-12-21T14:17:46.712+08:00Could anyone shed light on what happened to the &#...Could anyone shed light on what happened to the 'kingdom' that was in the Bujang valley? They seem to have vanished like the Aztecs of Guatemala; Vanquished? Destroyed? Tsunami? Or did they just become less productive? Yen is now one of the poorer districts in Malaysia.<br />Agreed most Indians don't know their roots; same goes for Malaysians of all races. Many don't know their great grandparent's names. I am blessed to come from a community that has a 1,000 year old office in Pillayarpatti in Tamilnadu. My family tree on record stretches back to 1,000 years - about 20,000 population today. Every time someone from our families gets married anywhere around the world we inform the office and they include the male name on the 'tree'. <br />There are references pertining to my ancestors' visits, at the Pillayarpatti library, to 'Kadaham' (Kedah) in ancient times. Such references to 'Kadaham' can also be found at the Chola Temple library in Tanjavur in Tamilnadu - a UNESCO World Heritage site. They are all written in Old Tamil, the kind found on inscriptions in almost all ancient temples in South-East Asia, including the Angkor Watt. But you are right - none of them actually settled down in the Bujang Valley.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-9287752478631992592013-12-19T20:10:53.770+08:002013-12-19T20:10:53.770+08:00Bravo broBravo broAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05062860457436289718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-59151097629173414362013-12-19T17:00:52.416+08:002013-12-19T17:00:52.416+08:00Tq for telling the truth...Tq for telling the truth...mfirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706585374804227979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-66277859068697696882013-12-19T17:00:25.796+08:002013-12-19T17:00:25.796+08:00Tq for telling the truth...Tq for telling the truth...mfirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706585374804227979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-24511868927788709172013-12-19T13:01:04.697+08:002013-12-19T13:01:04.697+08:00I spoke the truth because I am among those Indians...I spoke the truth because I am among those Indians who know their roots very well. Only Indians with no proper record of their own roots will make false claims. Sharmalan Thevarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15905439167704608705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-49543610431749427632013-12-19T11:13:39.513+08:002013-12-19T11:13:39.513+08:00Thank you for the explanation. There are Malays th...Thank you for the explanation. There are Malays that tried to make things clear and gave legitimate sources of reference (not Wikipedia of course) but they were put down sensesly by some of these hardcore Indians (not being racist here but just mentioning the cultural background). It's hard to explain to them when they can't reason with us. All simply fired up by a short and wrong historical explanation in a Facebook status. What happen to the hundreds of historical books? Lazy to read perhaps..But thank you again for telling the truth from your part.nazzrienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563165123225963746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-29219753920016683192013-12-19T11:13:05.070+08:002013-12-19T11:13:05.070+08:00Thank you for the explanation. There are Malays th...Thank you for the explanation. There are Malays that tried to make things clear and gave legitimate sources of reference (not Wikipedia of course) but they were put down sensesly by some of these hardcore Indians (not being racist here but just mentioning the cultural background). It's hard to explain to them when they can't reason with us. All simply fired up by a short and wrong historical explanation in a Facebook status. What happen to the hundreds of historical books? Lazy to read perhaps..But thank you again for telling the truth from your part.nazzrienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563165123225963746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-47580005501847887742013-12-04T12:00:18.451+08:002013-12-04T12:00:18.451+08:00Awesomeness Awesomeness Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589881125978030961noreply@blogger.com