tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post7440168233994367292..comments2024-03-12T12:44:18.178+08:00Comments on Sharmalan Thevar: The Origin of Madurai VeeranSharmalan Thevarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15905439167704608705noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-46613612205151753962021-11-25T15:54:58.438+08:002021-11-25T15:54:58.438+08:00The above post who said he's a Pillai and wors...The above post who said he's a Pillai and worship Maduraiveeran as kuladeivam. I am Soliya vellalar pillai and Madurai veeran is out kuladeivam too. We hail from Palani. Where are you from? Jaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679942555348714623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-62026112103644691742021-10-13T20:47:17.815+08:002021-10-13T20:47:17.815+08:00Hi Friends, our kula deivam is. Madurai Veeran, we...Hi Friends, our kula deivam is. Madurai Veeran, we want to know the origin temple of Madurai Veeran for worshipping, every where we have his dirty but where is the temple origin, can anyone helpAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05493039531541281606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-26528689838684004042021-05-10T21:09:46.117+08:002021-05-10T21:09:46.117+08:00madurai veeran and other kaabval deivam were a hum...madurai veeran and other kaabval deivam were a human living before this and they surely have koodu vittu koodu sakthi that they will travel from their body to another body to give arul vaaku...based on the persons good deed and clean bodyVeeran fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01788669450410662893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-67587705656084924282020-12-04T14:23:59.141+08:002020-12-04T14:23:59.141+08:00Sir, my Kula deivam is Maduraiveeran. My caste is ...Sir, my Kula deivam is Maduraiveeran. My caste is Pillai. Most of my cousins are Thevars from Vedharanyam parts. They have different Kula deivam and I have different Kula deivam. Is it possible? Also, were pillaimaars once kallars? Oruchinnapaiyyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13579182476395948618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-10989170158237447892020-04-13T23:13:54.337+08:002020-04-13T23:13:54.337+08:00How he became deity for pillaimarHow he became deity for pillaimarAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07097862097015944227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-18735984180655683262019-02-05T13:56:19.828+08:002019-02-05T13:56:19.828+08:00Anbana Vanakam, I am a Madurai Veeran devotee, we ...Anbana Vanakam, I am a Madurai Veeran devotee, we has praying God Madurai Veeran as a kula deivan since my grandparents generation and still, and one of my elder brother body has been being aiya veeran spirit since he was bachelor, is it my brother is aiya veeran blood because his spirit in his body Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12306586070642252936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-15053917604786830432018-05-15T13:02:53.957+08:002018-05-15T13:02:53.957+08:00I am from pillaimar community My Kula deity is als...I am from pillaimar community My Kula deity is also Madurai veeranAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11419764757012102250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-66005979027952143632017-11-13T17:07:25.100+08:002017-11-13T17:07:25.100+08:00Why people in fear workship the god that something...Why people in fear workship the god that something would have bad in the family . Is it that we worship him to do to harm us?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09889507555902890029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-13615349869473122422017-04-16T23:07:25.490+08:002017-04-16T23:07:25.490+08:00Well researched article. Best wishes
I wish to a...Well researched article. Best wishes <br /><br />I wish to add few things which I found frm my research.<br /><br />The Veeranar worshipped in Tanjore districts necessarily not be the Same Madurai veeran. Even before that the story of one deity Veeran is popular. It's actually he who is the son of a king and who is abandoned and again becomes a king. His wives are Veerasena and madanasena. It's my assumption that both these characters might have got confused in due course of time.<br /><br />Orelse within Tirumalai naickers time how it is possible that so many temples of veeran is wide spread across Tamilnadu when communication was so less in those days. <br /><br />My statements are based on what I've researched. But I'm open for other's findings too.<br /><br />Thanks <br />Aravind Subramanyam, Coimbatore Paraaya Gupthanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02892911270664128642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-57258542278048569082017-02-14T13:23:13.245+08:002017-02-14T13:23:13.245+08:00wonderful post ............also plz research about...wonderful post ............also plz research about ayanar, 18th padi karupu, Kamachiamman, bairaver..... Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01749641416802385116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-74396309615137746952016-12-07T16:33:11.349+08:002016-12-07T16:33:11.349+08:00when naiker said to attack the kallars....veeran d...when naiker said to attack the kallars....veeran doesnt attack the kallar because he understand kallar doesnt do robbery for the wealth....naiker who sucked the energy of kallar and history gave the tittle robbery....as veeran come to knw this...he not lik to attack kallars....but naiker gave wrong information to kallar and murder...in future...kallar came to knw his kind heart..so they were adapt him as deity....usually...kallars will follows under kind heart...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773922676188524458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-22330776579161770562016-11-25T09:18:53.956+08:002016-11-25T09:18:53.956+08:00Good question. I noticed that too. Alot of Thanjav...Good question. I noticed that too. Alot of Thanjavur Kallars worship Veeran under different names. Veeranar, Nondi Veeran. I don't have an answer for the question. Maybe if I find anything new then I will publish a sequel to this post.Sharmalan Thevarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15905439167704608705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-77006213236212610092016-11-22T18:23:08.736+08:002016-11-22T18:23:08.736+08:00In Tamil Nadu,Especially in Thanjavur Dt,many Kall...In Tamil Nadu,Especially in Thanjavur Dt,many Kallar families,including ours,with different titles ,worship Madurai Veeran as their Family Deity, Kula Deivam.IF He was from Sakkiliuyar family how the Kallars worship him as their Kula Deivam, This is a long bending subject in my research.... .N.Selvarajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08028650555511293133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-15623218488729611152016-05-31T10:40:44.447+08:002016-05-31T10:40:44.447+08:00No. Daughter of Bommana Naicker.No. Daughter of Bommana Naicker.Sharmalan Thevarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15905439167704608705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-81221309350858666932016-05-25T11:30:05.119+08:002016-05-25T11:30:05.119+08:00Bommi Amma is a Kallar?Bommi Amma is a Kallar?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03776113544777458358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4345234129024367362.post-70616781006709245322016-04-27T11:39:18.364+08:002016-04-27T11:39:18.364+08:00Honour killing, as it is now called, is an ancient...Honour killing, as it is now called, is an ancient practice in Tamil society<br /><br />The best example is the story of Madurai Veeran, a local deity who has a special shrine within the Meenakshi templ<br /><br />Honour killing, as it is now called, is an ancient practice in Tamil society. The best example is the story of Madurai Veeran, a local deity who has a special shrine within the Meenakshi temple in Madurai. He was murdered by Thirumalai Nayakar for falling in love with a member of the royal family.<br /><br />An Arundithiayar by birth, he rose through his exploits of valour. Thirumalai Nayakar acknowledged his skills and appointed him general in his fight against the Kallars. But he killed Madurai Veeran when he went against the caste hierarchy.<br /><br />The woman he loved committed suicide when she heard how his body had been mutilated, as did his first wife Bommi, a Kallar.<br /><br />Dr T Dharmaraj, professor of the folklore department at St Xavier University, Tirunelveli, says this is a typical example of honour killing. The view is endorsed by Professor A Sivasubramanian, veteran folklorist of Tamil Nadu.<br /><br />“If you analyse the oral history of Madurai Veeran, it’s clear his death came about because he loved a woman from a higher caste and questioned the hierarchy,’’ he said.<br /><br />What is interesting here is that Thirumalai Nayakar, from the dominant caste, who killed Madurai Veeran, is believed to have erected a temple and created a myth around the dead man. “This they do for fear of repercussions for killing such people,” says Dharmaraj. He adds that there are more than 2,000 little known female deities, or mounds of earth or small structures, in villages across Tamil Nadu worshipped by the villagers, including the dominant castes. “These were victims of honour killings in the last 500 years.”<br /><br />People believe that the ghost of the victim will take revenge against the killer. “The best example is the installation of stones in the villages for the victims and prayers not to cause any ill fortune to them,” says Dharmaraj.<br /><br />(It is worth mentioning here that Megala of Kattikulam wants to be reunited with her lover Shiva who, according to her, already exists in spirit form. “We will as ghosts take revenge against the family.”)<br /><br />The result of this deification, Dharmaraj says, is that the murders of these subaltern heroes, victims of the caste hierarchy, are hidden in plain sight.<br /><br />“People from all walks of life worship Madurai Veeran at Meenakshi Amman temple. Similarly, Pothyamman is worshipped in Ettaypuram in Tuticorin district even today.’’ Deification thus hides some of the worst crimes committed against the subaltern castes.<br /><br />In the early 1970s there were serious attempts to narrate these stories through a folk art form, Villupattu. At the time it had a huge impact, but now it has just become a matter of academic interest. Scholars do a lot of research on these subaltern heroes and on Periyar and his ideas on intercaste marriage, but people have been slow to absorb these ideas.<br /><br />Perhaps if the effort is made once again with greater determination, the practice of honour killing could still be eliminated from Tamil Nadu and folk heroes like<br /><br />Madurai Veeran would be honoured while alive, not worshipped dead.<br /><br />— Gokul Vannan (The New Indian Express)<br />ddoublehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12748578007428860793noreply@blogger.com