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Manabharana Is Not Malay (Manabharana Bukan Melayu)

In recent times, an alarming narrative has emerged within the Malaysian blogosphere, suggesting a historical event that appears to be a misinterpretation or perhaps a deliberate misinformation campaign. The claim revolves around a so called Malay prince named Manabharana from Srivijaya, purportedly attacking and conquering the Chola kingdom. This misleading story has gained traction and is spreading like wildfire across various social media platforms. The need to address and rectify such inaccuracies is crucial not only for the sake of historical accuracy but also for fostering a responsible and informed online community. To delve into the matter, it is essential to clarify that historical records reveal the existence of multiple individuals named Manabharana throughout history. However, a nuanced understanding reveals that all these figures were Tamils (Damila) hailing from the Pandya kingdom, with references to their exploits documented in Tamil inscriptions and Sri Lankan chronicles...

Confusion Over Vanni, Vannian and Vanniyar

DISCLAIMER: This article was written to explain about communal name and not to put down any community.


There is a confusion among some researchers with the word Vanni. Today, there is a Tamil community which calls itself Vanniyar. In the past this community was known as Palle or Palli. 

They are numerous in the northern parts of Tamil Nadu and in the intersect between Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Andhra. The Palli of Andhra and Karnataka speak Telugu and Kannadam. They don't consider Tamil as their mother tongue.

During the British rule, many communities in the Madras Presidency used the opportunity to rebrand itself. Even today, we can see some of them doing it. 



Since 1833, the Palli community campaigned to change their name from Palli to Agnikula Kshatriya or Vannikula which later became Vanniyar. Even in the census of 1891, a big majority of 89% still identified themselves as Palli and not as Vannikula.

Only in 1931 was the word Palli dropped and replaced with Agnikula or Vannikula. It was a campaign which took almost 100 years to succeed. 

Unlike what many people assumed, Vanni or Vanniyar is not the name of a community. It has several meanings. Although it is assumed that it comes from Agni (Fire), the actual word for Agni is Vahni and not Vanni. 

How Vahni and Vanni are related needs to be established by linguistic experts. However, there is a tree called Vannimaram which the Pallis worship as a sacred tree. 

The word Vanni can also be used to refer to forest dwellers, region of forest or even as a title synonymous with the word king. So the word Vanni has been misunderstood as a caste identity.

There is a region in Sri Lanka known as Vanni. As per records such as in Culavamsa, there have been migration of people from India into this region during the Chola period. However, the word Vanniyar is not confined to the Pallis alone. 

Although some may assume this to be true considering that the title Padayatchi exists in the Vanni region and the Palli community of northern Tamil Nadu use it, one has to understand that the Padayatchi title is also used by members of the Paravar community who live in coastal regions of neighboring Tamil Nadu. There is a subsect known as Arumboli Paravars who are also known as Padayatchi.

There were also migration of Paravar people into Sri Lanka as they lived closer to the island compared with the Pallis of the north. Possibilities of a mixed Padayatchi presence in Vanni should not be over looked.


Furthermore, anyone from Vanni region irrespective of caste is also called Vanniyar. The chieftains from the Karayar and Mukkuvar caste are also called Vanniyar. The local Veddah tribe is called Vanniyalaeto meaning forest dwellers or even Vanniminisu. 

In the Vanni region's social hierarchy, those of upper class are called MahaVanni and those below them are called SiriVanni. This shows that the word Vanniyar was also a regional identity and not just mere caste identity.

Among the Kallars of Thanjavur, there exist families which use the word Vanniyar as titles. They live in villages and streets bearing the name Vanniyan Theru. According to their history, the title was given to them by the Chola kings for their military service in Vanni, Sri Lanka. 

Among the Maravars caste, there are subdivisions known as Vannitha Maravar, Vanniya Maravar, Vannikutti Maravar and Vanni Kottu Maravar. There were also many Maravar feudal lords who used Vannian as titles. Some even had Vanni as name. 

One example is the nephew of the Sethupathi of Ramnad, Sadaikka Thevar (1636 AD - 1645 AD) . His name was Vanni Thevar and he was nicknamed Vannian. Vanni Thevar served as the commander of his uncle's army. 

Some spread false information in the internet that the Sivagiri Palayakarars were Palli because of the word Vanniya Maravar. This is not true. The Sivagiri Palayakarars are Maravars and one of the descendant happened to be a friend of mine.

Caste certificate of Sivagiri Zamin's descendant shows that they are Maravar.
These are some of the examples of how the word Vanni, Vannian, Vanniyar is used by different sets of people. 

There could be some inscriptions referring to chieftains as Vannian, however, that does not mean every inscription with Vanni or Vannian is referring to people of the same caste. 

The fact that the Palli community changed their caste name to Vanniyar in the early 20th century creates confusion among present day Tamils as many wrongly think that inscriptions of the past is referring to Pallis.  

As students of history, we must remind ourselves that the word Vanni, Vannian or Vanniyar found in the various Tamil inscriptions or literature may not necessarily refer to one community.

I hope this explanation helps to clear the ongoing doubt.



"Skirting along the hills they halted one evening at the fort of the Poligar Vaniah of Shevagherry ["Vaniah" stands here for Vanniya, the caste name or title of a branch of the Marava caste, to which the Sivagiri Poligar belonged. The Elayiram pannei Poligar was also a Vanniya]"
Page 114 

History of Tinnevelly by Bishop R.Caldwell (1881)

"The Vannian caste, known in Tinnevelly as Maravars, are chiefly the agricultural servants or sub-tenants of the wealthier ryota under whom they cultivate, receiving a share of crop varying from one-ffth to half" Page 16 
A Manual of The Tinnevelly District in The Presidency of Madras by A.J Stuart (1879)
"The Maravar or Vannian caste peculiar to Southern India has a history of its own of considerable interest. To this class belonged most of the Poligars or feudal chieftains who disputed with the English the posession of Tinnevelly during the later half of the last and the first years of the present century; as feudal chiefs and at the same time heads of a numerous caste or class of the population, and one whose charateristics was eminently adapted for the roll of followers of a turbulent chieftain, bold, active, enterprising, cunning and capricious, this class constituted themselves or were constituted by the peaceful cultivators, their protectors in times of bloodshed and rapine, when no central authority capable of keeping the peace existed" 
Page 17 & 18 A Manual of The Tinnevelly District in The Presidency of Madras by A.J Stuart (1879)



"At this time there were thrity-two Poligars in Tinnevelly, each of whom had entrenched himself in a fort and surrounded himself with a large body of armed retainers. The constant endeavour of each was to enroach on the domains of this neighbours, and especially to swallow up any revenue or right that still remained in the posession of the central government. Their armed retainers were either Maravars or Nayakas, the latter chiefly in the eastern villages, the former in the western country. These are described by Orme as tall, well made and well featured" 
Page 50
A Manual of The Tinnevelly District in The Presidency of Madras by A.J Stuart (1879)

"The taluk contains 268 villages, of which 222 are Government, 17 Inam, and 29 Kattuguttakai or rented. The population  numbers 180,219 souls, of whom 160,607 are Hindus, 18,966 Mahomedans, and 650 Christians. The castes most numerously represented are Vellalars or Pillais, 33,975; Vannians or Maravars, 47,945; Shanars, 13,313; Shephers, 12,956; and Brahmins, 10,791. The Pariahs amount to 11,148." 
Page 89 
A Manual of The Tinnevelly District in The Presidency of Madras by A.J Stuart (1879)

Comments

  1. English language are derived from many language like latin, french,hebrew, sanskrit, tamil and many. Today english speaking guys are telling our language is widely spoken in the world. Like this this palli people took many communities subcaste title to them. Vanni (maravar) udaiyar (gounder) naicker (this people came from andra and speaking Telugu in madurai region) vellalar (pillai, mudhali) padayatchi (paravar). This palli people are smartly transmuting the history to capture the politics. In future that may say our community is widely living in tamilnad.

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  2. Sivagiri zamins are maravar. They said vanniya kula kshathriya(not present day vanniyars, pallis) is a subcaste of maravar. But palli people are trying to create a drama about it. Even they have answered with huge essay in Facebook. But the real is they are maravar.

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  3. is there any possibilities to get arrange marriage betwn maravar and vanniyar??

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    1. It is up to the individuals and their family to decide

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  4. whether the community maravar and vanniyar is same???arrange marriage is possible between these people

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  5. can you write an article about silai ezhubadhu? this palli people are playing game with that. they changed their name b4 a century ago but that was written in ancient period. right from chozha period "vanniyar" title has been using by tanjavur kallar.. this silai ezhubadhu also was written in chozha period. it is clearly showing silai ezhubadhu is about those period kallar vanniyar. still in tanjavur there is vanniya street where kallar people living as generations..

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    1. All records referring to the word Vanniyar in ancient times is not related to the present day Vanniyar community as their real community name is Palli and they only changed it to Vanniyar during British period.

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  6. Sharmalan Thevar: you are 100% correct, i verified all the screenshots updated by you. Even i also found one document about sivagiri zamindar in which it clearly says thats sivagiri zamindar belong to vanni-kutti subcaste of maravar(thevar) caste.
    Document name: Madras District Gazeeters Tinnevelly Vol 1 1917

    "The zamindarni, who belongs to the Vanniyan caste
    —to be distinguished from the sect of Maravans who call
    themselves Vannikutti Maravans"
    Page : 416

    "the stronghold of the last of the Marava poligars who
    struggled to maintain against all opposition the ancient
    independence of their race. The whole area of the taluk*
    was occupied by these chieftains. Puli Tsvan of Nelkattan-
    seval, the most conspicuous amongst them, held the heart of
    the country, and around him were the poligars of Cliokkanci-
    patti, Uttumalai, Talaivankottai, Sivagiri and Setttir, all
    Maravans and all prominent figures in the history of the
    eighteenth century. Even at the present time more than
    one-third of the taluk consists of zamindari land, and
    Maravans form the bulk of the population in this area."

    page: 408

    Palli caste people are trying to create false history by just using the title vanniyan given to vanni-kutti subsect of maravan caste

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  7. some people develop the false history for their caste but you only publish a true history

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